{"id":1082,"date":"2023-07-03T20:26:06","date_gmt":"2023-07-03T20:26:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/guncoupons.net\/?p=1082"},"modified":"2023-07-03T20:26:06","modified_gmt":"2023-07-03T20:26:06","slug":"bag-guns-practical-or-fanboy-gimmick","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/guncoupons.net\/?p=1082","title":{"rendered":"Bag Guns \u2014 Practical or Fanboy Gimmick?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<div class=\"article-image\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>I see a lot of fun guns, and fun fads, that are not terribly useful. That\u2019s fine, it keeps the gun economy rolling and pays the bills for my favorite shops. After all, if you admit it, when was the last time those of us over 50 purchased something that we needed?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/firearms\/?utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=bag-guns-practical-or-fanboy-gimmick\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Guns<\/a> don\u2019t often need replacing, and fads are most often the province of younger generations. The Bag Gun concept, which has gained traction recently, is among these. The bag gun gives a bigger \u2018loadout,\u2019 a term best reserved for combat operations.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"553\" height=\"576\" alt=\"Bob Campbell carrying a PCC in a gun bag\" class=\"wp-image-88875 jetpack-lazy-image\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-1.jpg?w=553&amp;ssl=1 553w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-1.jpg?resize=288%2C300&amp;ssl=1 288w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-1.jpg?resize=150%2C156&amp;ssl=1 150w\" data-lazy-sizes=\"(max-width: 553px) 100vw, 553px\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-1.jpg?resize=553%2C576&amp;is-pending-load=1#038;ssl=1\"\/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"553\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-1.jpg?resize=553%2C576&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"Bob Campbell carrying a PCC in a gun bag\" class=\"wp-image-88875\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-1.jpg?w=553&amp;ssl=1 553w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-1.jpg?resize=288%2C300&amp;ssl=1 288w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-1.jpg?resize=150%2C156&amp;ssl=1 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 553px) 100vw, 553px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/noscript><figcaption>Is the author carrying a laptop?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>The need for a bag gun is low on my list. The Secret Service probably needs this type of gear, and maybe we would have a long gun ready at some events in regular local law enforcement circles. But the primary advantage of any discreet bag is that it shields the contents from prying eyes. This means thieves.<\/p>\n<div class=\"code-block code-block-2 ai-viewport-2 ai-viewport-3\" style=\"margin: 8px auto; text-align: center; display: block; clear: both;\">\n<!--Mid Article Ad for Mobile and Tablet--><br \/>\n<a target=\"\u201d_blank\u201d\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/ammunition\/bulk\/\" rel=\"noopener\"> <img decoding=\"async\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/bulk_ammo_ad_mob.jpg?w=640&amp;is-pending-load=1#038;ssl=1\" srcset=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" class=\" jetpack-lazy-image\"\/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/bulk_ammo_ad_mob.jpg?w=640&amp;ssl=1\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/noscript><\/a><\/div>\n<p>An obvious range bag isn\u2019t very low key. Gun people will spot a lot of the gear. If you have disposable income for range toys, it\u2019s all good. As time goes by, I am enjoying range toys more and more. However, some of us have less disposable income and more problems.<\/p>\n<div class=\"code-block code-block-1 ai-viewport-1\" style=\"margin: 8px auto; text-align: center; display: block; clear: both;\">\n<!--Mid Article Ad for Desktop--><br \/>\n<a target=\"\u201d_blank\u201d\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/contest.html?cid=contest\" rel=\"noopener\"> <img decoding=\"async\" align=\"center\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/rdf_july23_ad.jpg?w=500&amp;is-pending-load=1#038;ssl=1\" srcset=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" class=\" jetpack-lazy-image\"\/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/rdf_july23_ad.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1\" align=\"center\" px=\"\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/noscript><\/a><\/div>\n<p>Being prepared sometimes puts us at odds with sections of the public. This includes those too timid to take charge of their own safety. Just the same, a good guy with a gun and a bad guy with a gun may be a little difficult to discern when you cannot see inside their mind. So, low key is always better.<\/p>\n<p>Remember, certain sections of the public (with their thumb on 911) think some of us in the gun culture are crazy. My gun culture is filled with wonderful people, for the most part. The shootings in Chicago are another gun culture \u2014 like it or not. Discretion prevents us from being <em>Ruby Ridged<\/em>\u2026 we hope.<\/p>\n<h2>Theory of the Bag Gun<\/h2>\n<p>The bag gun has many nuances and is pretty gimmicky. Giving young folks slack, the bag gun in many cases is a re-discovered truck gun. I kept a light, handy, long gun in the cruiser. One lesson in being outgunned, but not outshot, was all it took. The problem is that some, if not all, the folks championing the bag gun with the thought that bigger is better. This ignores the basic tenets of personal defense and are on the high end of the Dunning-Kruger scale.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"443\" height=\"576\" alt=\"Practicing deployment from a gun bag\" class=\"wp-image-88876 jetpack-lazy-image\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-2.jpg?w=443&amp;ssl=1 443w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-2.jpg?resize=231%2C300&amp;ssl=1 231w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-2.jpg?resize=150%2C195&amp;ssl=1 150w\" data-lazy-sizes=\"(max-width: 443px) 100vw, 443px\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-2.jpg?resize=443%2C576&amp;is-pending-load=1#038;ssl=1\"\/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"443\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-2.jpg?resize=443%2C576&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"Practicing deployment from a gun bag\" class=\"wp-image-88876\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-2.jpg?w=443&amp;ssl=1 443w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-2.jpg?resize=231%2C300&amp;ssl=1 231w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-2.jpg?resize=150%2C195&amp;ssl=1 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 443px) 100vw, 443px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/noscript><figcaption>Practicing deployment might be better accomplished behind cover. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>They overrate their ability and underestimate their knowledge. The Dunning-Kruger scale demands self-assessment against actual knowledge and performance. Many shooters are simply unaware that they are unskilled. A lack of police, military, or competetion experience is one problem, as they have no bar to match themselves against. They may have had poor or improper training.<\/p>\n<p>A readiness standard and the standard response drill are not understood. An immediate response is needed in personal defense. Deploying a bag gun, or perhaps a bagged gun, is more appropriate and getting this piece into action in 10\u201315 seconds isn\u2019t a high state of readiness at all. Nor am I willing to say the 9mm pistol with brace, a short barrel AR pistol, or anything else that fits in that bag is superior to the pistol you may carry concealed \u2014 if you have not trained.<\/p>\n<p>If you have trained, the pistol caliber carbine may give you much greater range and hit probability. The bag gun simply doesn\u2019t offer a valid response to an assault. If the bag gun is your sole armament, you will be full of holes before you deploy it.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"540\" height=\"576\" alt=\"Maintaining situational awareness while removing a PCC from a gun bag\" class=\"wp-image-88878 jetpack-lazy-image\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-4.jpg?w=540&amp;ssl=1 540w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-4.jpg?resize=281%2C300&amp;ssl=1 281w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-4.jpg?resize=150%2C160&amp;ssl=1 150w\" data-lazy-sizes=\"(max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-4.jpg?resize=540%2C576&amp;is-pending-load=1#038;ssl=1\"\/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"540\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-4.jpg?resize=540%2C576&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"Maintaining situational awareness while removing a PCC from a gun bag\" class=\"wp-image-88878\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-4.jpg?w=540&amp;ssl=1 540w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-4.jpg?resize=281%2C300&amp;ssl=1 281w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-4.jpg?resize=150%2C160&amp;ssl=1 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/noscript><figcaption>It would be best to keep your eyes on the threat!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>Some folks like to have a carbine ready in a special purpose gun bag or a gym bag. Convenience and price are concerns. Some bags are highly recognizable. In many jurisdictions, pistols over a certain length are illegal to carry concealed. I live in a state with perhaps the best of all possible carry laws. However, there are limits on the size of handgun carried, and an AR pistol is too large.<\/p>\n<p>There is some precedent to keeping a long gun concealed under clothing, which isn\u2019t what the bag gun is about. Doc Holliday kept a shotgun in a special custom rig under his coat. It was roughly similar to the new breed of short, pump-action Shockwave types. The Secret Service has long deployed a shoulder rig for its full-auto Uzis SMG\u2019s and MP5 variants.<\/p>\n<p>Most of us don\u2019t have the need to stitch up a vehicle or clear a sniper from a rooftop. This is perhaps over the top. Among my circle of family and friends are an Army Major (with significant experience) and many who served as peace officers. None of us feel the need for a bag gun, but we all find the severe limit on response time contraindicated.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"411\" height=\"576\" alt=\"Locking open the stock on a Smith and Wesson FPC\" class=\"wp-image-88879 jetpack-lazy-image\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-5.jpg?w=411&amp;ssl=1 411w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-5.jpg?resize=214%2C300&amp;ssl=1 214w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-5.jpg?resize=150%2C210&amp;ssl=1 150w\" data-lazy-sizes=\"(max-width: 411px) 100vw, 411px\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-5.jpg?resize=411%2C576&amp;is-pending-load=1#038;ssl=1\"\/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"411\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-5.jpg?resize=411%2C576&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"Locking open the stock on a Smith and Wesson FPC\" class=\"wp-image-88879\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-5.jpg?w=411&amp;ssl=1 411w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-5.jpg?resize=214%2C300&amp;ssl=1 214w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-5.jpg?resize=150%2C210&amp;ssl=1 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 411px) 100vw, 411px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/noscript><figcaption>Snap! The piece is locked. Now to rack the bolt to load the FPC.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<h2>Handguns Just Work Better<\/h2>\n<p>All of us deploy service grade <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/firearms\/handguns\/?utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=bag-guns-practical-or-fanboy-gimmick\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">handguns<\/a> that are, for the most part, unexceptional. Aside from the fact that the carry of many of the bag guns are illegal in many jurisdictions \u2014 and a loaded carbine in a bag is questionable \u2014 the practical gain is slim at best. A few decades ago, Jack Lewis and I worked on several editions of the Gun Digest Book of Assault Weapons. Jack was the real thing, a combat marine with extensive experience. He came up with challenging experiments. In one of these, I matched myself against a skilled shooter with an UZI Carbine. The semi-auto UZI featured a 16-inch barrel and folding stock.<\/p>\n<p>The goal was to deploy, fire, and address targets at 5, 7, 10, 15, and 25 yards. My pistol was an Action Works Custom Hi-Power 9mm. The whistle blew and the score was tabulated. Although observers didn\u2019t really find it necessary, the winner was obvious. I was much faster in addressing targets, and the Hi-Power\u2019s accuracy was superior to the UZI semi-automatic <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/firearms\/rifles\/?utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=bag-guns-practical-or-fanboy-gimmick\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">carbine<\/a>. To be fair, we have better shooting carbines than the UZI with its heavy bolt and poor trigger.<\/p>\n<div class=\"code-block code-block-4 ai-viewport-2 ai-viewport-3\" style=\"margin: 8px auto; text-align: center; display: block; clear: both;\">\n<!--End of Article Ad for Mobile and Tablet--><br \/>\n<a target=\"\u201d_blank\u201d\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/contest.html?cid=contest?utm_source=CTD_Blog_AD&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=blog_range_day_friday_mobile&amp;utm_content=square\" rel=\"noopener\"> <img decoding=\"async\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/rdf_july23_ad_mob.jpg?w=640&amp;is-pending-load=1#038;ssl=1\" srcset=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" class=\" jetpack-lazy-image\"\/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/rdf_july23_ad_mob.jpg?w=640&amp;ssl=1\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/noscript><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"code-block code-block-3 ai-viewport-1\" style=\"margin: 8px auto; text-align: center; display: block; clear: both;\">\n<!--End of Article Ad for Desktop--><br \/>\n<a target=\"\u201d_blank\u201d\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/ammunition\/bulk\/\" rel=\"noopener\"> <img decoding=\"async\" align=\"center\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/bulk_ammo_ad.jpg?w=500&amp;is-pending-load=1#038;ssl=1\" srcset=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" class=\" jetpack-lazy-image\"\/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/bulk_ammo_ad.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1\" align=\"center\" px=\"\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/noscript><\/a><\/div>\n<p>I think the gun bag is for transport. If you need to have a long gun at ready, it should be on a sling. I often bring along a long gun when traveling or when camping. Feral dogs, the big cats, and feral humans are the likely threat.<\/p>\n<p>Depending on the likely mission, some long guns might fit in a package that looks as if it would hold a ski pole. A sudden change in the safety variable may be addressed by such a firearm.<\/p>\n<p>Security during transport is important. Many folks steal for a profit and many steal just for the hell of it. A nice bag gun is fine when traveling, but rapid deployment is highly questionable. Remember, there is no safety. No safety at all. There are simply varying levels of risk.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"602\" height=\"576\" alt=\"Kneeling on the case for a bag gun\" class=\"wp-image-88880 jetpack-lazy-image\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-6.jpg?w=602&amp;ssl=1 602w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-6.jpg?resize=300%2C287&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-6.jpg?resize=150%2C144&amp;ssl=1 150w\" data-lazy-sizes=\"(max-width: 602px) 100vw, 602px\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-6.jpg?resize=602%2C576&amp;is-pending-load=1#038;ssl=1\"\/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"602\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-6.jpg?resize=602%2C576&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"Kneeling on the case for a bag gun\" class=\"wp-image-88880\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-6.jpg?w=602&amp;ssl=1 602w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-6.jpg?resize=300%2C287&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-6.jpg?resize=150%2C144&amp;ssl=1 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 602px) 100vw, 602px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/noscript><figcaption>In deference to aging knees, the bag is a useful buffer. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>As an example, I was impressed by a video I watched featuring a skilled shooter carrying a bag gun. The firearm was a 9mm pistol of the AR type with AR-type controls, a 33-round magazine, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/parts-and-accessories\/scopes-and-optics\/red-dot-and-holographic-sights\/?utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=bag-guns-practical-or-fanboy-gimmick\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">red dot sight<\/a>. He knelt, and to his credit, kept his eyes on the threat. The case was zipped open, and the firearm was deployed and aimed toward the threat.<\/p>\n<p>From the time the shooter knelt, to the time on target, was 11 seconds. Every layer of concealment denies access to your weapon. With a handgun, the covering garment is reasonable. The bag gun isn\u2019t reasonable.<\/p>\n<p>The bag gun, (even for LEOs) is for the threat you have some warning of. It is good to have a long gun for deployment in such a situation. I would prefer an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/firearms\/tactical\/ar-15-rifles\/?utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=bag-guns-practical-or-fanboy-gimmick\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">AR rifle<\/a> for reaction to an active shooter.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"640\" height=\"514\" alt=\"Aiming a bag gun\" class=\"wp-image-88881 jetpack-lazy-image\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-7.jpg?w=648&amp;ssl=1 648w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-7.jpg?resize=300%2C241&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-7.jpg?resize=150%2C120&amp;ssl=1 150w\" data-lazy-sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-7.jpg?resize=640%2C514&amp;is-pending-load=1#038;ssl=1\"\/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"640\" height=\"514\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-7.jpg?resize=640%2C514&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"Aiming a bag gun\" class=\"wp-image-88881\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-7.jpg?w=648&amp;ssl=1 648w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-7.jpg?resize=300%2C241&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-7.jpg?resize=150%2C120&amp;ssl=1 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/noscript><figcaption>Up and shooting in way too long an interval! <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>The rifle must be carried chamber empty over a loaded magazine. I have not seen a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/backpacks-and-bags\/?utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=bag-guns-practical-or-fanboy-gimmick\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">bag<\/a> that protects the trigger and safety actuator from movement. In any case, long guns simply are not as drop safe as modern handguns.<\/p>\n<h2>Giving Bag Guns a Shot<\/h2>\n<p>An advantage of a bag such as the ASAP bag that often accompanies me on trips is that medical gear and spare magazines may be carried. I keep a hatchet, flare gun, and a myriad of well thought out medical supplies in the bag.<\/p>\n<p>Some bags are long and tall and scream gun. My ASAP bag is purely medical. While it is easy to carry spare magazines, they also represent more time to deploy than those carried on the body. Once the bag is carried with a firearm, you must never lose control of the bag. It is bad enough for a laptop to be stolen, much less a rifle or pistol\u2026<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"640\" height=\"426\" alt=\"Shooting a 9mm bag gun from a prone position\" class=\"wp-image-88882 jetpack-lazy-image\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-8.jpg?w=648&amp;ssl=1 648w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-8.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-8.jpg?resize=150%2C100&amp;ssl=1 150w\" data-lazy-sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-8.jpg?resize=640%2C426&amp;is-pending-load=1#038;ssl=1\"\/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"640\" height=\"426\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-8.jpg?resize=640%2C426&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"Shooting a 9mm bag gun from a prone position\" class=\"wp-image-88882\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-8.jpg?w=648&amp;ssl=1 648w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-8.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-8.jpg?resize=150%2C100&amp;ssl=1 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/noscript><figcaption>The 9mm bag gun is versatile and easily learned. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>I have experimented with the system and find that the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/parts-and-accessories\/magazines\/?utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=bag-guns-practical-or-fanboy-gimmick\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">magazines<\/a> may snag, but a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/parts-and-accessories\/slings\/?utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=bag-guns-practical-or-fanboy-gimmick\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">sling<\/a> is counter indicated for most deployments. A pistol caliber carbine with a sling is likely to snag on deployment and I would avoid most trappings. If you have time to deploy a long gun, of course, you are better armed. However, long guns are better served in area defense and home defense, making the bag best suited for transport.<\/p>\n<p>I am dead set against leaving a firearm in a vehicle, although there are times when it is unavoidable. My opinions come from life experience and drills under controlled circumstance. The bag gun concept is theoretical and recreational for the most part. Be certain your training in tactical response makes that response operational not aspirational. Testing only works if the parameters of inquiry are well defined. \u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>That said, I recently tested the new <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/sandw-mandp-fpc-folding-pistol-carbine-9mm-luger-semi-auto-rifle-16-threaded-barrel-23-rounds-black\/FC-022188892512.html?utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=bag-guns-practical-or-fanboy-gimmick\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Smith &amp; Wesson Military &amp; Police folding pistol caliber FPC 9mm<\/a>. This is, to the best of my knowledge, the first factory supplied \u2018bag gun.\u2019 It gives me pause. In time of unrest and traveling across unfamiliar areas, perhaps the concept makes sense. You may carry the bag gun in with the luggage with no one the wiser.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"639\" height=\"576\" alt=\"Smith and Wesson FPC (bag gun) stowed in a soft case\" class=\"wp-image-88884 jetpack-lazy-image\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-10.jpg?w=639&amp;ssl=1 639w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-10.jpg?resize=300%2C270&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-10.jpg?resize=150%2C135&amp;ssl=1 150w\" data-lazy-sizes=\"(max-width: 639px) 100vw, 639px\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-10.jpg?resize=639%2C576&amp;is-pending-load=1#038;ssl=1\"\/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"639\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-10.jpg?resize=639%2C576&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"Smith and Wesson FPC (bag gun) stowed in a soft case\" class=\"wp-image-88884\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-10.jpg?w=639&amp;ssl=1 639w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-10.jpg?resize=300%2C270&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-10.jpg?resize=150%2C135&amp;ssl=1 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 639px) 100vw, 639px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/noscript><figcaption>The S&amp;W bag gun set up is well thought out. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>My wife knows my work well, yet she walked into the study, spotted the FPC bag gun, and asked what it was. She was surprised.<\/p>\n<p>I practiced deployment. I am not fast at all and not as fast as possible with a bag gun. A folding carbine, such as the FPC, makes more sense than an AR pistol in many ways. It is much easier to shoot well.<\/p>\n<p>If the FPC is properly strapped into the bag, it takes a while to unstrap it. Once you deploy the firearm, the bag is on the ground and may be lost during an engagement. Smith &amp; Wesson has that covered as the FPC features a butt stock magazine carrier.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" alt=\"Hornady safe in the trunk of a SUV\" class=\"wp-image-88885 jetpack-lazy-image\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-11.jpg?w=648&amp;ssl=1 648w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-11.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-11.jpg?resize=150%2C100&amp;ssl=1 150w\" data-lazy-sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-11.jpg?resize=640%2C427&amp;is-pending-load=1#038;ssl=1\"\/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-11.jpg?resize=640%2C427&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"Hornady safe in the trunk of a SUV\" class=\"wp-image-88885\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-11.jpg?w=648&amp;ssl=1 648w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-11.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/Bag-Gun-11.jpg?resize=150%2C100&amp;ssl=1 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/noscript><figcaption>A Hornady safe in the trunk just may be a good option\u2026 food for thought. <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>I caught the folding mechanism on my shirt once. It takes practice to deploy, and this isn\u2019t something you will learn overnight. However, there is promise. I am working up a full review on the FPC soon. For now, the bag gun is promising, and I\u2019m starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel. The bag gun isn\u2019t going to replace my handgun, but when traveling or the right scenario arrives, this is a promising setup.<\/p>\n<h4><strong>What are your thoughts of a bag gun? Would you ever carry a bag gun in place of a pistol? What roles do you think it could serve? 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