{"id":1514,"date":"2024-01-18T15:15:58","date_gmt":"2024-01-18T15:15:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/guncoupons.net\/?p=1514"},"modified":"2024-01-18T15:15:58","modified_gmt":"2024-01-18T15:15:58","slug":"how-the-springfield-saint-compares-to-other-ar-15-platforms","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/guncoupons.net\/?p=1514","title":{"rendered":"How the Springfield Saint Compares to Other AR-15 Platforms"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<p id=\"breadcrumbs\"><span><span><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/\">Home<\/a><\/span> \u00bb <span><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/category\/firearms\/\">Firearms<\/a><\/span> \u00bb <span><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/category\/firearms\/ar-15\/\">AR-15s<\/a><\/span> \u00bb <span class=\"breadcrumb_last\" aria-current=\"page\">Throwback Thursday: How the Springfield Saint Compares to Other AR-15 Platforms<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div>\n<div class=\"article-image\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<p>I am pretty well known as a huge <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/ar-15-guide-glue-threadlockers\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">DIY AR-15<\/a> advocate, and also for some of the full-custom projects I\u2019ve been either responsible for or associated with. That means that I\u2019m not normally impressed with an AR-15 that comes out of a box complete. One of the reasons for that is because there\u2019s usually something (and often a long list of some things) that I would have wanted to be done differently. I\u2019d also be looking over it and making notes on what I had to replace to get it up to speed and then out to the range. Not the Springfield Saint.<\/p>\n<p>This doesn\u2019t mean that all things on the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/search.php?search_query=Springfield+Saint&amp;utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=springfield-saint\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Springfield Saint<\/a> are absolutely stops-out top of the line. It means that they are all what they should be. And they are, indeed, all there. Keep in mind that when we\u2019re talking about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/firearms\/tactical\/ar-15-rifles\/?utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=springfield-saint\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">AR-15s<\/a>, we\u2019re talking about pieces \u2014 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/parts-and-accessories\/parts-by-gun-model\/ar-15\/?utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=springfield-saint\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">parts<\/a> more than we are a whole package. So when I say \u201cthey are all what they should be,\u201d that means Springfield Armory wrote the right build sheet. They got the parts right or got the right parts\u2026 however you want to look at it.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"520\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Saint.jpg?resize=640%2C520&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"springfield saint ar-15\" class=\"wp-image-52149\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Saint.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Saint.jpg?resize=300%2C244&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Saint.jpg?resize=768%2C624&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">A Brief History<\/h2>\n<p>The Saint series was introduced in 2016. That\u2019s a good long while after when they could have done it. They fixed it before they released it. \u201cFixed it\u201d means all the issues we (and me very loudly) have identified have been incorporated by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/firearms\/?fq=brand%3ASpringfield&amp;fq=price%3A50%2C14643&amp;page=1&amp;utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=springfield-saint\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Springfield Armory<\/a>. (Details forthcoming\u2026)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Note:<\/strong> There is a sizable model-option list across the whole Saint line, and I\u2019m going to focus primarily on the basic carbine, simply called the Saint.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s also the Saint Edge\u00a0and Saint Victor models, each available as carbine, short barreled rifle (SBR), or pistol \u2014 and the Victor can be a .308 Win. or 9mm. Look closely at the specifications list on the Springfield Armory website and see the detail differences. And of course, notice the retail-detail differences! As always, higher-rev is higher cost.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Right Stuff<\/h2>\n<p>The carbine version, the base Saint, has a mid-length gas system. That\u2019s a huge help! A mid-length design moves the carbine (16-inch barrel) gas port location from seven out to nine inches. The result is lower gas port pressure, nicer manners and better function.<\/p>\n<p>The extended port location also means a shorter post-port barrel length, and this reduces the time the system is under max pressure. Symptoms of excessive pressure are well known: extraction and\/or feeding issues and general battering of the gun and its cartridge cases.<\/p>\n<p>The new USASOC contract gun, the URG-I, which I reviewed in these pages a while back, also made use of the mid-length. It works. Another nice touch on the Springfield Saint is that, like that URG-I, the gas block is pinned in place, not just affixed with set screws. Further, and always near the top of my list for a carbine build, is an H-weight tungsten buffer that comes standard on a Saint. One more thing you don\u2019t have to buy, but would otherwise! The combination of the mid-length <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/ar-15-adjustable-gas-systems-good-idea\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">gas system<\/a> and the heavy buffer make a Saint very soft shooting.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"520\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/SaintEdge.jpg?resize=640%2C520&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"springfield saint edge\" class=\"wp-image-52150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/SaintEdge.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/SaintEdge.jpg?resize=300%2C244&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/SaintEdge.jpg?resize=768%2C624&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Specs and Features<\/h2>\n<p>Parts are straight off the \u201crecommended\u201d list, as Saint uses an M16-profile USGI-spec bolt carrier group with a select Carpenter 158 bolt. Barrel is Chromemoly Vanadium, Melonite coated inside and out, 1:8 twist and a NATO chamber. All good.<\/p>\n<p>Furniture on the Saint is from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/parts-and-accessories\/parts-by-gun-model\/ar-15\/?fq=brand%3ABravo+Company+Manufacturing&amp;page=1&amp;utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=springfield-saint\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Bravo Company<\/a>, another good choice (very popular and highly recommended in the aftermarket). The BCM Gunfighter forend uses M-Lok attachment slots. It\u2019s not free-floating, but it is worlds beyond USGI for ergonomics and utility.<\/p>\n<p>Step up to the next level of Saint models and you\u2019ll see a nicely designed free-float tube. That is a recommended consideration. The free-float tube makes a noticeable difference in on-target accuracy. The stock is BCM Gunfighter Mod O, and the trigger guard and grip also are from Bravo Company. Springfield knows when to invent their own wheel, and when there\u2019s just no reason to reinvent a perfectly functioning wheel available from worthwhile others. Smart and wise.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"520\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/SaintVictor2.jpg?resize=640%2C520&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"springfield saint victor\" class=\"wp-image-52152\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/SaintVictor2.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/SaintVictor2.jpg?resize=300%2C244&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/SaintVictor2.jpg?resize=768%2C624&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>The trigger is standard USGI congfiguration, but it\u2019s not standard USGI performance. The parts are more precisely machined, meaning they then more precisely fit together, and the whole works is Nickle Boron-coated. It\u2019s not bad! Expect break weight in the five-plus (a little at least) pound range, and it\u2019s pretty clean. Worlds better than a stock USGI. Springfield Armory\u2019s choice of trigger fits perfectly into this whole package as I\u2019m warranting it \u2014 you really don\u2019t have to run out and buy a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/parts-and-accessories\/parts-by-gun-model\/ar-15\/?fq=brand%3AGeissele+Automatics%25%25-COMMA-%25%25+LLC&amp;page=1&amp;utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=springfield-saint\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Geissele<\/a> before you can shoot it.<\/p>\n<p>Saints come with sights! Okay, they\u2019re nothing high-rev, but they\u2019re there. It\u2019s a good-enough set of \u201cflip-style\u201d irons, 1\/2 MOA adjustable; simple, sturdy. That\u2019s not at all a big deal to many (maybe most), because in this day we pretty much have to accept that purchasing an accessory sight is a part of a new gun package. I think it\u2019s a wonderful thing, though, because I will recommend this gun for a brand new (at least new to AR-15s) owner. It is possible to head for the range and give it a spin just as it comes out of the box.<\/p>\n<p>It ships with a Magpul brand magazine. Another bonus, another \u201cone less thang\u201d to purchase. Well, you\u2019ll likely want a few more, but Magpul is good.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">How It Compares<\/h2>\n<p>Back to the start: Springfield Armory chose a good build sheet for the Saint. There\u2019s nothing this gun needs. There are things some shooters will want. Needs and wants are largely, honestly, subjective, and I\u2019m stepping outside a might here to presume how we all perceive values. But, the point is, that what\u2019s there is good; it\u2019s well and wisely chosen.<\/p>\n<p>That is, to me, what separates the Saint series from the radical majority of boxed guns I\u2019ve seen on the market. Sgt. Martin and I used to have a laugh when someone would ask either of us, \u201cHey, have you seen so-and-so-manufacturer\u2019s new AR-15?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And we would ask, \u201cWhat\u2019s NEW about it?\u201d Dead silence. Right. It\u2019s an AR-15 made by someone else. In the same way, the Saint is an AR-15 made by Springfield Armory. What is new about it, though, is that they got it right. The Saint series \u2014 every variation in the lineup \u2014 has engineering ideas and specific parts incorporated to ramp up these guns to what \u201cwe,\u201d custom builders, have been incorporating for years now.<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"520\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/SaintVictor1.jpg?resize=640%2C520&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"springfield saint victor\" class=\"wp-image-52151\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/SaintVictor1.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/SaintVictor1.jpg?resize=300%2C244&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/SaintVictor1.jpg?resize=768%2C624&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>The Saint series, though, isn\u2019t custom guns. Maybe some, like the Saint Edge models, could be called \u201csemi-custom,\u201d but in truth, they are Saints <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/ar-15-upgrades-enhancing-adams-arms-mid-base-piston-rifle\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">upgraded<\/a> with touches that builders incorporate to take another step up in performance. The value is still there. Doing my own calculations, Springfield sure doesn\u2019t seem to be artificially running up the price to offer the higher-cost features (like some \u201cfactory custom shops\u201d seem to do). A basic Springfield Saint has a retail of $950 or so.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Conclusion<\/h2>\n<p>When I think of factory-built \u201cpremium\u201d AR-15s, my first thought is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cheaperthandirt.com\/firearms\/rifles\/?fq=brand%3AWilson+Combat&amp;utm_source=blog.cheaperthandirt&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=springfield-saint\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Wilson Combat<\/a>. When I think now of \u201creally good AR-15s,\u201d my first thought goes to Springfield Armory. I am also fully aware that Springfield Armory is not the only source for \u201cgood\u201d factory AR-15s, and also those at an equitable price point. However, Springfield Armory is a major maker. The Springfield Saint is backed up well by people who really truly want you to enjoy your (their) firearm.<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Have you used the Springfield Saint? Do you notice any other differences when compared to other AR-15 platforms? Let us know in the Comments section.<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p><em><strong>Editor\u2019s note:<\/strong> This post was originally published in October of 2019. It has been completely revamped and updated for accuracy and clarity.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span id=\"tve_leads_end_content\" style=\"display: block; visibility: hidden; border: 1px solid transparent;\"\/><!-- AI CONTENT END 1 -->\n\t<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.cheaperthandirt.com\/springfield-saint\/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=springfield-saint\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Home \u00bb Firearms \u00bb AR-15s \u00bb Throwback Thursday: How the Springfield Saint Compares to Other AR-15 Platforms I am pretty well known as a huge DIY AR-15 advocate, and also for some of the full-custom projects I\u2019ve been either responsible for or associated with. 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